Hi there,

I hope you’ve had a great week.

I was recently interviewed on the Lead with Courage podcast with Cherie Canning (Spotify; Apple; and more) and wanted to share it with you.

It was an awesome conversation and we covered a fair bit of ground:

• What courage means to me.
• The intersection of privilege, guilt, and responsibility and how my experience at the CEO Sleepout to end homelessness highlighted this.
• My mindset shift in the lead up to Athens Olympics thanks to Michael Johnson (4 x Olympic gold medal sprinter).
• The importance of framing behaviour not as positive and negative but as towards and away.
• The best question to ask instead of saying no.
• Why it’s important to distinguish between who we are and what we do.
• Why I chose to set practices rather than goals in 2024 and what that looked like.
• My favourite Top Gun quote.
• And much more.

You can listen to it here: Spotify; Apple; and more.

Enjoy!

With love,

Toby